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Nefarious
06-24-2004, 06:52 PM
oh God...

got my new motherboard, put it in and hooked everything up. ok, so I go to install windows. it starts copying files. BAM, computer shuts down. first thought to run through my head is: "wait, doesnt this motherboard have something to protect your computer from overheating?" so, i start it back up and go into BIOS. I switch over to hardware monitor. first thing I see is chassis temp. Its at 95 so I'm thinking, oh cool, better than before. THEN I see the CPU temp. It was a monstrous 185 F. I almost shit my pants when I saw that. So now I need to go get a new heatsink/fan. keep in mind I am on a budget. any suggestions for a heatsink/fan that is under 20 bucks?

ferret
06-24-2004, 07:03 PM
Uh. 185 degrees? Unless your old heatsink was an absolute piece of shit there's no way it was that high.....

Any copper heatsink SHOULD work but if you want a really good one its gonna be $30+

Satanic_Hamster
06-24-2004, 07:04 PM
More likely...

Was the fan unplugged? Or the cpu sensor could be faulty, most likely.

Canon
06-24-2004, 07:05 PM
Make sure you coat the heat-sink side of the CPU with thermal paste.

Nefarious
06-24-2004, 07:10 PM
fan was plugged in. Artic Silver 3 on both heatsink and CPU. I dont think the sensor was faulty. I am willing to exceed 20.

which is better:
High Airflow/Low Air Pressure

or

Low Airflow/High Air Pressure?

Canon
06-24-2004, 07:11 PM
Neither... check out heat-piping technology.

Nefarious
06-24-2004, 07:28 PM
and i can get that from?

I may go up to frys tomorrow and check out what they have

sexyownage
06-24-2004, 08:48 PM
u might have put too much as3... it only works if u put a thin coat just to fill in the cracks. did u use like a credit card or a razor blade to take the excess off?


stupid question if u got a new heatsink... did u take off that plastic covering on the bottom of it?

@gent-Orange
06-24-2004, 09:10 PM
stupid question if u got a new heatsink... did u take off that plastic covering on the bottom of it?

ROFL. I've seen that happen more than once. :roll:

nOOB
06-24-2004, 10:00 PM
do u have thermal paste between the chip and heatseank

Canon
06-24-2004, 10:02 PM
Make sure you coat the heat-sink side of the CPU with thermal paste.

Nefarious
06-24-2004, 10:45 PM
Artic Silver 3 on both heatsink and CPU.

I used my health insurance card to spend the as3. I will take it off and try again. I dont have much as3 left, but ive got plenty of as2.

Nefarious
06-24-2004, 11:22 PM
ok, i redid the thermal paste (as3) and it is still hovering around 155-160 F. Sure it IS better than 190, but its still freakishly high. The only explanation could be my anceint thermaltake volcano 7 heatsink/fan. will upgrade soon

Satanic_Hamster
06-24-2004, 11:38 PM
Wait, what proc?

And is it the same HS you had on previously?

blue
06-25-2004, 01:43 AM
i wonder some heatsinks have a notch, and if you put it on the wrong way you dont have good contact with the chip. i did this.

:/

perhaps this is hte case?

acme420
06-25-2004, 08:48 AM
my friend did that, i have his motherboard that mysteriously stopped working a few weeks after he bought it. realized he had the heatsink on backwards after i got it....never did get it to work again. doesnt post so maybe the mobo , proc doesnt look fried.

PeregrineFalcon
06-25-2004, 08:52 AM
fan was plugged in. Artic Silver 3 on both heatsink and CPU. I dont think the sensor was faulty. I am willing to exceed 20.

which is better:
High Airflow/Low Air Pressure

or

Low Airflow/High Air Pressure?

You should only be putting AS on the CPU, putting it on both not only is too much it makes it difficult to not get AS on the non-core part of the chip. If this happens and heat begins to build you are casuing heat to start to get to parts of the cpu which are not the core. The AS should only be applied to the core, in such a thin coat that you can almost still read the information on it. Make sure you cleaned off any previous thremal compound from the heatsink also.

Nefarious
06-25-2004, 11:30 AM
fan was plugged in. Artic Silver 3 on both heatsink and CPU. I dont think the sensor was faulty. I am willing to exceed 20.

which is better:
High Airflow/Low Air Pressure

or

Low Airflow/High Air Pressure?

You should only be putting AS on the CPU, putting it on both not only is too much it makes it difficult to not get AS on the non-core part of the chip. If this happens and heat begins to build you are casuing heat to start to get to parts of the cpu which are not the core. The AS should only be applied to the core, in such a thin coat that you can almost still read the information on it. Make sure you cleaned off any previous thremal compound from the heatsink also.

actually, you are supposed to put it onto both. I you have rub it into the pores in the heatsink

PeregrineFalcon
06-25-2004, 11:40 AM
HA, well you are just plain wrong. Who has a cool CPU and who doesnt right now? I rest my case.

acme420
06-25-2004, 02:13 PM
i just smear a thin layer over the heatsink in the middle where it makes contact with the die.

smearing it all over the heatsink is pointless to me. btw i have an amd so i dont know how big the surface of a p4 is, but on an amd its like 3/4 of an in by 1/4 of an inch about this big

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Nefarious
06-25-2004, 02:26 PM
i have amd too. im not saying all over the heatsink, im saying just where it will make contact with the CPU. and falcon, you are supposed to

@gent-Orange
06-25-2004, 05:27 PM
You put it on the heatsink IF the base is not polished. A rough non polished base needs thermal paste.

acme420
06-25-2004, 05:30 PM
polished or not the processor will not be 100% making contact thats why the thermal grease is used.

to get all up in the microscopic nooks and crannys

@gent-Orange
06-25-2004, 05:40 PM
I never said you shouldn't put it on the processor.It most definitely needs to be put on. Weather or not to put it on the heat sink is the current debate. Hence my reply.

acme420
06-25-2004, 05:43 PM
i dont see what the diff is whether it goes on the proc or the heatsink as long as its on there in the spot where they touch each other (eww lol).

@gent-Orange
06-25-2004, 05:48 PM
to get all up in the microscopic nooks and crannys

steaLer
06-25-2004, 05:59 PM
to get all up in the microscopic nooks and crannys

Nefarious
06-25-2004, 06:05 PM
to get all up in the microscopic nooks and crannys

Nefarious
06-25-2004, 08:07 PM
AeroCool Deep Impact Series w/ 2 Aluminum fans included

btw, this is the kind that you attach 2 fans too

Nefarious
06-25-2004, 08:45 PM
ok, for it to fit with both fans, i would have to remove my exhaust fan. so i do it or not?

@gent-Orange
06-25-2004, 09:18 PM
Start with one and add the second if the temp is too high. From all the reviews I've read one is enough. If you use 2 you need to have the fans placed to blow\suck.


BTW. That's one sweeeet cooler.

Nefarious
06-25-2004, 09:33 PM
this is the hardest thing i have ever tried to install...

Nefarious
06-25-2004, 09:54 PM
by george ive got it!


hopefully it does a great job so i dont have to take it off to put the other one on...

Nefarious
06-25-2004, 10:06 PM
success!

i went from between 140-160 to between 110-120
still testing the temps, but i think im ready to overclock!

@gent-Orange
06-25-2004, 10:12 PM
If you wanted to overclock you should have put on both fans.Foool :wink:

Nefarious
06-25-2004, 10:19 PM
... you bastard. oh well, i will be investing in a new larger case soon with more fans and more space, so i will definately overclock then. although right now, overclocking wont change much on my massive amd athlon xp 2000+

@gent-Orange
06-25-2004, 10:39 PM
I have Barton core 2500XP overclocked to 2800XP. All I had to do is change the multiplier. No unlocking necessary. Kept the FSB at 333. CPU temp is 104 and mobo temp is 104. Cpu goes as high as 118 on graphics intensive applications\games. :P

acme420
06-25-2004, 10:41 PM
on th heatsink do you think suck or blow is better? cuz i would rather my temps not always be hovering around 50c and if suck will make the temps go down a few degrees then ill turn my fan around post haste.

@gent-Orange
06-25-2004, 10:46 PM
Single fan solution is always blow. Nefs heatsink allows for 2 fans so suck\blow is needed for best cooling results.

acme420
06-25-2004, 10:47 PM
ive seen heatsinks with suck fans on em.

@gent-Orange
06-25-2004, 10:49 PM
Don't go near them.REALLY

@gent-Orange
06-25-2004, 10:58 PM
Since we're talking heatsinks, I figured I would post a link to the one I'm using.


http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/stink2.jpg

Nefarious
06-25-2004, 11:01 PM
holy Mother of God...

Spyder
06-25-2004, 11:05 PM
Wait, isnt the volcano 7 only rated for the lower end athlons? if your using it on a new fast cpu, thats probably the problem.

sexyownage
06-25-2004, 11:20 PM
ROFL!

acme420
06-25-2004, 11:25 PM
new heatpipe technology i see.

im using this, nothing special just a copper heatsink for better thermal some****oranother than aluminum heatsinks.

http://home.comcast.net/~n.lawal/hsink.jpg

PeregrineFalcon
06-29-2004, 08:56 AM
mine http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/zalman_cnps7000_Cu.jpg

ferret
06-29-2004, 09:00 AM
Jesus christ A@. How many times has it broken loose and flown around the room so far?

PeregrineFalcon
06-29-2004, 09:01 AM
it keeps my P4C 2.4 @ 3.26 cool at about 38degrees C, and 44degrees C under heavy load.

ferret
06-29-2004, 09:04 AM
Big ass Thermaltake EXTREME Volcano 12 keeps my Athlon 2500 1.8 @ 2.3 at under 36C idle. Under heavy load it'll just barely hit 40C

@gent-Orange
06-29-2004, 09:44 AM
Jesus christ A@. How many times has it broken loose and flown around the room so far?

Never. But I have a remote for it and take it out for a flight test every now and then 8)

kael
06-29-2004, 11:50 AM
that fan could create a wind tunnel