Kim Sun-il

[unrequited]

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5470535

[wtf]

omfg...no :(

[[gh]Spurty]

Eww .. sadly, he is soon to be deattached from his head. These people are not making demands anyone can fulfil, they are doing this for publicity. Seems to work great, its getting masses of air time.

Someone has to make these barbarians pay .. its worse than the Scottish hoards attacking the English in the middle ages.

[[gh]Spurty]

The raid shattered a lull in Falluja and fueled tensions before the formal end of Iraq's U.S.-led occupation on June 30.

OIL EXPORTS RESUME

In Ramadi, another restive city west of Falluja, four U.S. soldiers were killed by insurgents, witnesses said. Their bodies lay sprawled on the ground. The U.S. military had no immediate information on the attack.

Wtf is that capitalized for? Is that why he is being beheaded? Cause the Iraqis want to keep their oil ?

[[gh]Spurty]

er, I think thats actually a crude attempt at a title for the next section. Weird, cause it doesn't really center on the oil, more the destruction (which sells better)

[[gh]Spurty]

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=5474608

Hopefully, they want to go in to save their people's lives. That'll be a bit of a nightmare for the Iraqi people to find ill will against. Not that these thugs have much going on upstairs in the brain department.

"They are burning in their tanks"

[wtf]

This just blows my mind....I think ill pray tongiht even htough im not religious.

[darien]

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He was bedeaded... murdered...
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040622/D83C6AO00.html

[PeregrineFalcon]

/me disgusted with the state of the world.

[[gh]Spurty]

/me disgusted with evil doers and that means, no more going T for me in CZ (Even though its really tempting on assault and Italy).

[Anonymous]

And yet, unrequited feels we should take the neutral path and have a peace-loving, tree-hugging government.

[unrequited]

And yet, unrequited feels we should take the neutral path and have a peace-loving, tree-hugging government.

Neutral and peace loving? No.

"Nuke the towelheads" Hell no.

I think we should get out of Iraq, and let them do their own thing.

[PeregrineFalcon]

and let our wonderful (sarcasm) pres/vice pres's lose their control of oil there?NEVER

[[gh]Spurty]

I think we should get out of Iraq, and let them do their own thing.

You are aware that their own thing is to either convert or destroy and humiliate anyone who doesn't convert to the dark side correct?

I mean, you don't have a head full of air there? It is switched on and its reading from the same page the rest of us are reading from? you can't stick your head in the sand and make the bad man go away. Well, you can stick your head in the sane and suffocate, which will effectively remove you from the signal to noise ratio.

So far, in the 30 years I've seen this war waged, the best solution is still to get the Clerics to announce that it is ok to have freedom of speach and therefore freedom to chose how to live your life and to allow room for other religions. When that is written into the Quoran, then and only then with non-muslims be free from these people.

This is NOT a new phenonemum. Its been happening since comercial airlines started landing planes in Iran and Iraq. Heck, its even been happening long before these times. Although, not all posted on the internet, there is some 1400 years of beheadings (we like to call that History and sometimes we refer to this to allow us to work out what people are likely to do in the future).

Why are you so sure that if people/countries stop defending their people and stop telling them (these crazy religious people) that this is UNACCEPTABLE and there are CONSQUENCES when you do this to people who are subjects of Super Nations, that they are suddenly going to give up 1400 years of war against the infediles (non-muslim religions and non-believers of gods) and roll over for you?

Sadly, to think that you should turn the other cheak is their greatest weapon. Its like the Canadian army having its cache of weapons in 1st grade schools and Chatholic churches being totally acceptable. You wouldn't dream to live in such a World, why do you accept it when its actually a reality? Don't accept it, change it.

Note: I used Canada in the example to bring this home (where it will be if everyone leaves and let these people win their greatest fight for 1400 years).

If they want to live in caves and act like bullies, then fine, lets put them on a desert island and never give them any interaction with the rest of the World. That'll make me happy and no one will get killed.

Will they accept that resolution? Seems like the only way to me. :P

[[gh]Spurty]

and let our wonderful (sarcasm) pres/vice pres's lose their control of oil there?NEVER

heh oil from Iraq = 4% of America's dependance. Oil from Arab nations is a LOT higher. I think there is more likely pandering to the 36% than the need for the 4%

Remember, Iraq is not on a good footing with all Arab nations. Also, the Oil in Iraq is dirt cheap due to labor being so cheap. You have oil fields in the US, but to drill for it costs 100s of times more money and the American consumer will not fall buy expensive oil (I don't mean to point the finger, but logically, look where the dependancy really is, the government doesn't drive you to work, you do and you fill up and you pay for the oil).

Its often hard to see that the real origin of certain issues, especially when its the person trying to work out the problem has a scape goat (blame the government, they control Oil!! <-- wrong, its a business and businesses control oil shipments, not Governments. Governments do however levey taxes on inports which is a perfect way to hurt those who hurt their Country without doing silly things like having wars).

Hmm I'm tired. I hope this makes sense and strikes a cord with you all. I expect lots of replies about how cars are gods and everyone has a god given right to own as many as they can and therefore, oil is a given right. Don't let me down now ;-)

[Anonymous]

And yet, unrequited feels we should take the neutral path and have a peace-loving, tree-hugging government.

Neutral and peace loving? No.

"Nuke the towelheads" Hell no.

I think we should get out of Iraq, and let them do their own thing.

Getting out of Iraq now would be telling terrorists and militants we're easily beaten. Doing this would invite more attacks than we have now. The axe is in the tree and it's almost cut down, why pull out now?

[ferret]

I hate to break this to everyone, but the US hasn't been attacked since 9/11, not domesticly. Every place we've been attacked, we've been attacked by citizens of that nation.

People being killed in Saudi Arabia: Killed by Saudi's.
People being killed in Iraq: Killed by Iraqi's

I don't see any "People being killed in the US: Killed by Iranians" or anything. If we're not there, we can't be killed.

Ponder this my friends: If another 9/11 scale attack DOES occur, where do we bomb? We've already taken out Iraq and Afganistan. Shall we just hop from country to country until we controls all of them? Its starting to look like a game of Risk if you ask me.

[PeregrineFalcon]

and let our wonderful (sarcasm) pres/vice pres's lose their control of oil there?NEVER

heh oil from Iraq = 4% of America's dependance. Oil from Arab nations is a LOT higher. I think there is more likely pandering to the 36% than the need for the 4%

Remember, Iraq is not on a good footing with all Arab nations. Also, the Oil in Iraq is dirt cheap due to labor being so cheap. You have oil fields in the US, but to drill for it costs 100s of times more money and the American consumer will not fall buy expensive oil (I don't mean to point the finger, but logically, look where the dependancy really is, the government doesn't drive you to work, you do and you fill up and you pay for the oil).

Its often hard to see that the real origin of certain issues, especially when its the person trying to work out the problem has a scape goat (blame the government, they control Oil!! <-- wrong, its a business and businesses control oil shipments, not Governments. Governments do however levey taxes on inports which is a perfect way to hurt those who hurt their Country without doing silly things like having wars).

Hmm I'm tired. I hope this makes sense and strikes a cord with you all. I expect lots of replies about how cars are gods and everyone has a god given right to own as many as they can and therefore, oil is a given right. Don't let me down now ;-)

What you say is true, yes. The point I was trying to make is that our current vice president is the former CEO of an oil company, and in his best interest it makes sense to have good ties with Iraq. If u recall i believe almost all of the terrorist from 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. Now im pretty sure we have good ties with them regardless of this known TRUE fact. The reason no action was taken was because Saudi Arabia supplies our country with the second most amount of oil per day (only second to Canada). All I was trying to point out was that taking over Iraq supports the Saudi Arabian agenda, in turn helping our VP win more support from the Saudis. As you said a lot of Arab countries dislike Iraq (Saudi Arabia being one of them). Quoting you yet again, it is all about Business and its sad that we allow people with such conflicts of interest run our country.

Here is a little more about our VP, Dick Cheney (http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Dick_Cheney)

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