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[NAKED] Young DVP
06-12-2004, 01:40 PM
http://www.van-halen.com/newsite/newbandclose.jpg
I don't care what anyone says, Van Halen virtually single-handedly shaped what we know as rock music today. There was the period before Eddie, then the period after. After was better! Whether you liked the band with DLR or Sammy or *cough* Gary Cherone *cough*, this was four guys who showed that metal could be edgy and trend setting without being overly controvercial and dark. And it was always FUN!! It's hard not to tap your foot when Ice Cream Man or Pretty Woman comes on the radio. And songs like Dreams and Right Now genuinely move me.

Van Halen was filling up arenas when going to concerts was a national past-time! Back then, fans were loyal (and they still are unlike today where a band better make its money before the next thing comes along. There was no need to get a dozen attractions booked into one venue in order to make it financially viable - but when Monsters of Rock toured it was like a religious experience.

Van Halen kicked off their 2004 tour in Greensboro, NC last night to a crowd of approx. 15,000 (not sure, I lost count after 9,548). The opening act, Silvertide came on at 7:25 and played for about 30 minutes. They were so-so but were an encouraging reminder that old-school metal is alive and well in the 21st century. I was however concerned that the boys from VH would come out, see that every other seat was empty and say, "F*** it! we're outa here!" But by the time the stage was set with the signature VH encircled with the raised hoop, I would have to say that the show was very nearly sold out.

They opened with Jump, and that's exactly what the audience did! The show was full of expected favorites like Best of Both Worlds and Panama, but a few surprise older tunes like Somebody Get Me a Doctor were thrown in which brought the house to a feverish frenzie.

The band - all in all - looked good. Sammy Hagar was in top form, Cabo has obviously been VERY good to him. Michael Anthony (looking like he was sportin' hair-plugs, but I could be wrong) was about the same as I remember him with his signature Jack Daniels bass (which actually dispensed shots of JD!). Alex Van Halen is still the human drum machine. Eddie Van Halen, the driving force behind the band - the 9 time named 'guirarist of the year' - is lookin a little rough these days. After beating a bout with mouth cancer (or was it throat?) due in part to heavy smoking, he could still be seen with a smoke stuck between the strings on the neck of his guitar. One had to ask, "What the f*** dude?! That's why
Valerie Bertonelli (http://drycatfood.tripod.com/2c1ec6d0.jpg) left your ass!" The easily recognised smile was there, but the brown curly locks were not. He's sportin' some sorta knot on the top of his head that just looks silly in my opinion. And he really, really, really looks like he needs a sandwich! But when it comes right down to it... Eddie is still undeniably The Man on the guitar!
http://www.van-halen.com/newsite/livestatic.jpg
Undoubtedly worth the money to see, however next time I'm not gonna be so cheap and get some better seats. My nose is still bleeding! Say what you want, they don't come any better than Van Halen. Who you listen to today will most likely be flippin' burgers tomorrow. But they'll be playin' songs like Running With the Devil and Finish What You Started on the radio when your kids have kids!

Van Halen Website (http://www.van-halen.com)

Anonymous
06-12-2004, 02:28 PM
That isn't the real Van Halen...that's Van Hagar, which is 1/8 of Van Halen's original power. To restore power, find all pieces of the tri..er...I mean...they need Roth!

[NAKED] Young DVP
06-12-2004, 02:37 PM
DLR is a shell of his former self. He doesn't have the physique. he doesn't even have the voice. And he certainly doesn't have the hair! And, frankly, I think they seem to have more fun with Sammy than with DLR.

[NAKED] Young DVP
06-14-2004, 04:00 PM
<bump>

Either everyone is in awe of my superior reviewing skills and are now in line to pick up concert tickets and/or every album they've ever made...

or they think I'm stupid...

Either way it's cool...

Anonymous
06-14-2004, 05:56 PM
Hagar is a hippie...music with him sucks. If fun with the guy is all they're looking for, then it won't sell records. Hagar sucks ass.

[NAKED] Young DVP
06-14-2004, 06:10 PM
Roth's colorful showmanship and boisterous personality, matched with Eddie's guitar playing, took the band to the top ranks of the hard-rock world. His departure for a solo career was seen by many as a death knell for the band, but with veteran rock singer and songwriter Hagar, Van Halen actually surpassed its previous record sales while Roth's career sputtered.

Anonymous
06-14-2004, 09:02 PM
Quote from what source, may you pre-tell?

[NAKED] Young DVP
06-14-2004, 10:09 PM
http://www.vhnd.com/archive/breakup/latimes2.html

It's kinda old, but I just did a quick Google search. I could dig more, but that's not the point.

The age old controversy that has plagued the fabric of all mankind: "Was VH better with Dave or Sammy?" will, regrettably outlive this forum discussion. I loved their music with DLR. I loved it with Sammy. The fact is that it is really 2 different bands. Both with good and great qualities. It was really an evolutionary step when Sammy joined.

I'm just glad to see them recording and touring again. It reminds me why I fell in love with this type of music in the first place. There is so much crap out there these days.

Doc Wattson
06-16-2004, 01:59 PM
Young DVP]I don't care what anyone says, Van Halen virtually single-handedly shaped what we know as rock music today.

Please tell me you are joking. Van Halen was a great band back when 1984 came out but since then they've just been a leading pop-rock band. They haven't single hadedly shaped rock and roll any more then Jessica Simpson has single-handedly shaped modern pop.

-Gary-

[NAKED]Loki
06-16-2004, 04:45 PM
OMG Van Halen is back....why the hell did they have to come back. I didnt even like them that much when they were around, now they are trying for another comeback. And its not even the good Van Halen. Its Van Haggar.

unrequited
06-16-2004, 05:01 PM
My favorite Van Halen song set to an Anime Music Video...

http://nago.animemusicvideos.org/localdownload.php?v=3684

If you don't have an account, it's free to make one.

[NAKED] sidark
06-16-2004, 05:17 PM
Guys,

Young DVP grew up with this.
Its like people in the 50's who will go see moody blues or YES.

I like Skinny Puppy and Manson.
If in 10 years from now they do a show, I will be exited to see them.

Uthor
06-16-2004, 05:31 PM
I grew up with grunge, and I wasn't excited to see Pearl Jam last year. Though, I would be excited if Soundgarden reformed......

[NAKED] Young DVP
06-17-2004, 01:20 AM
I grew up with grunge, and I wasn't excited to see Pearl Jam last year. Though, I would be excited if Soundgarden reformed......Thanks for making my point. There's no loyalty for any so-called 'new' artists out there anymore. Ayone remember Creed? Didn't think so. How about The Black Crows? No? The thing I hate to hear most when I comment on the flaccid commerciality of any new music is, "Well, they're makin' money ain't they." Who cares if they turn a buck! Go sell crack on the corner of 5th and Main if you want an easy dollar.

And Sid, Yes and the Moody Blues are from the late 60's and 70's. Both put out material in the 80's and 90's too. Hell, Yes just toured locally. I missed the show, but would have LOVED to have been there.

Rock is dead. Or so I've been told.

Athena
06-17-2004, 09:37 AM
All I know is if you wanted to take more that one person (meaning yourself) you need to take out a personal loan to pay for it. ;) I wouldn't mind seeing Van Halen in concert though.

Uthor
06-17-2004, 09:57 AM
Young DVP]I grew up with grunge, and I wasn't excited to see Pearl Jam last year. Though, I would be excited if Soundgarden reformed......Thanks for making my point. There's no loyalty for any so-called 'new' artists out there anymore. Ayone remember Creed? Didn't think so. How about The Black Crows? No? The thing I hate to hear most when I comment on the flaccid commerciality of any new music is, "Well, they're makin' money ain't they." Who cares if they turn a buck! Go sell crack on the corner of 5th and Main if you want an easy dollar.

And Sid, Yes and the Moody Blues are from the late 60's and 70's. Both put out material in the 80's and 90's too. Hell, Yes just toured locally. I missed the show, but would have LOVED to have been there.

Rock is dead. Or so I've been told.

No, I think I was trying to say that growing up with a band does not mean I want to rush out and see them in concert on a reunion tour. Espessially if they don't have any new material to play. (Do I wish to stand in a croud of thosands to hear a best of set? no.) There are a couple bands I am loyal to that I go out of my way to see whenever I can, and those are all "new" bands (within the last 5-10 years), but I would like to think myself more loyal to the music than the group (i.e., if they put out crap, I will not buy it cause X band put it out, and I will buy stuff from a band I don't necessarily like if they put out something good). One "old" band I would love to see, though, is New Order, but they don't like to tour and almost never in the US. Maybe when their new CD comes out later this year/early next year....

And rock is not dead, but it is deaply wounded. Comercially, there are few bands far between that are worth anything (Andrew WK, White Stripes, .... ) (I'm not saying great, but better then most). But, the underground scene is very much alive and kicking. It's taking influences from all over (60's R&B, 70's punk, 80's new wave and dance-pop, 90's pop-punk, Irish rock-and-roll, etc, etc), plus is accented by good hip-hop and rap artists (some of which "rock" harder then and nu-metal band can ever hope to aproach). There is a very strong spark of life, but comerciallism will not allow a large label to take a chance on anything remotely controvercial and high accessibility to music (i.e. P2P programs) will keep any one group from gaining a large enough undergroud following to push them into the mainstream (kinda like Green Day had).

Anonymous
06-17-2004, 04:13 PM
Young DVP]http://www.vhnd.com/archive/breakup/latimes2.html

It's kinda old, but I just did a quick Google search. I could dig more, but that's not the point.

The age old controversy that has plagued the fabric of all mankind: "Was VH better with Dave or Sammy?" will, regrettably outlive this forum discussion. I loved their music with DLR. I loved it with Sammy. The fact is that it is really 2 different bands. Both with good and great qualities. It was really an evolutionary step when Sammy joined.

I'm just glad to see them recording and touring again. It reminds me why I fell in love with this type of music in the first place. There is so much crap out there these days.

How do you get an actual opinion FROM a Van Halen dedicated website?! Bad source, dude, heh, sorry to say.

[NAKED] sidark
06-17-2004, 04:21 PM
There is still good bands out there. Depends what you listeen to.
I like old bands(80's) like news ones.

Young theres still some great bands out there. Some that are to stay.

Bands like NIN, Kmfdm, Rob Zombie, Manson, are still rockin'
Systeme of a Down, Korn,

BIlly Talent is a new band that is very good also.

Mudvaine, Static-X, Slipknot

Theres alot of great germain bands like wumpscut, ramstein.

Classic still living like The Cure and David Bowie, (maybe ministry) doing tours.

I just miss that Billy Idol or Skinny Puppy dont do anything these days.

[NAKED] sidark
06-17-2004, 04:23 PM
Young DVP]http://www.vhnd.com/archive/breakup/latimes2.html

It's kinda old, but I just did a quick Google search(...) There is so much crap out there these days.

How do you get an actual opinion FROM a Van Halen dedicated website?! Bad source, dude, heh, sorry to say.


EE your already a bad source, sorry to say.

Anonymous
06-18-2004, 06:17 AM
sidark, at least make sense when you're trying to defend someone else's claim.

[NAKED] sidark
06-18-2004, 09:54 AM
Why would I? I dont have to prove nothing to no one.
I say something and thats it, I dont realy care of how people will take it.
If you unerstand something well thats good, if you dont well thats good also. ONly yourself can decide on understanding something or not.
And its not to other to judge if that unerstanding is good or not or makes you a retard.